Another Letter to the Editor in the San Francisco Chronicle

The other day I had written about a letter to the editor.  The Chronicle printed it today.  I knew that they would since they called me yesterday afternoon just to let me know (which is something that they didn’t do before with my last one).  Here it is:

 

Why Rome fell

Editor — No Roman historian worth his salt would today conclude that "homosexuality was one of the moral sins that contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire," (Letters, "Beginning of the fall …," June 7) any more than a modern historian would say the same about America today.

Speaking as a Roman historian, the fall of Rome had more to do with invasion, bad economic choices and overbureaucracy (among other things). But not homosexuality. Edward Gibbon (who has been suspected of being gay himself) was no fan of Christianity — so to use Gibbon in support of Christianity’s suppression of gays and lesbians is to seriously misrepresent history.

KEVIN KAATZ

San Francisco

 

It was in response to a letter that was about the same-sex marriage bill that was just passed.  Ted Rudow III ended his comment with this:

They are mocking God, the Bible and are creating anarchy where there are no absolutes. No wonder both Edward Gibbon and Arnold Toynbee concluded that homosexuality was one of the moral sins that contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire, and America now, if it passes.

I did a quick search of Ted Rudow III yesterday and saw the he sent in another letter to the editor to the Caledonian Record (Vermont).  Not surprising, it was complaining about granting same-sex couples equal rights.  I’ll print it here, and please take note of the last paragraph of his letter:

 

Tuesday June 5, 2007

To the Editor:
Supporters and opponents of the measure agree that it will be approved, and last week Gov. John Lynch, a moderate Democrat, said he will sign it. When he does, it will make New England the first region to have every state granting a measure of legal rights to same-sex couples.
They are mocking God, the Bible and are creating anarchy where there are no absolutes. No wonder both Gibbon and Toynbee concluded that homosexuality was one of the moral sins that contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire, and America now, if it passes.
Ted Rudow III
Menlo Park

 

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5 Responses to Another Letter to the Editor in the San Francisco Chronicle

  1. Ted Rudow III,MA says:

    ALL MAJOR American mental health associations have affirmed that homosexuality is not a mental illness. In 1975, the American Psychological Asso-ciation (APA) urged all psychologists to "take the lead in removing the stigma long associated with homosexual orientations" (Conger, 1975, p. 633). The literature that classifies homosexuality and bisexuality as mental illness has been found to be methodologically unsound.There is no reason to doubt the generous impulse behind the work of professional psychologists and social scientists. Most of the experts who guide the psychological society have good intentions. But there may be reasons to doubt the competence of psychological helpers. The first indication that psychology might be ineffective came in 1952 when Hans Eysenck of the Institute of Psychiatry, University of London, discovered that neurotic people who do not receive therapy are as likely to recover as those who do. Psychotherapy, he found, was not any more effective than the simple passage of time. Additional studies by other researchers showed similar results.Our transformation into a psychological society has brought with it a new set of values. They are shallow and selfish values for the most part, and they are the ruling values. But that is not the worst side of the situation. The disturbing thing is the very effective suppression of alternatives. It is difficult to remember what the old values are, let alone to pass them on. The manipulation of words, as Orwell realised, is also the manipulation of reality. If you call a certain deed \’murder\’, it summons up one reality to the mind. Call it \’pro-choice\’, and the reality seems different. This is often the effect of the social sciences on language. Meanings get turned on their heads. The man who assaults you is called a \’victim\’. A woman who leaves her family is called \’courageous\’. The point is, many of the attitudes you find in psychology are simply American attitudes.I\’m not condemning the poor boy who has some kind of satanic perversion or demonic impulse that drive them into that kind of a relationship. It\’s really sad and I feel sorry for them! But I know that if they will sincerely pray and ask the Lord to free them and deliver them from that spirit, He will!TED RUDOW III, MAPO Box 1222Menlo Park, CA 94026

  2. Kevin says:

    Ted–I am going to leave your comment up even though I have no clue how this is related, at all, to what you had written about to the Chronicle and my response.  You claim that homosexuality is causing the downfall of the U.S.  You used Gibbon (who is extremely outdated–it was written during the American Revolution) to show that homosexuality was part of the downfall of the Roman Empire.  I teach a course on the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and that idea is rubbish. 

  3. Narciblog says:

    Wow, queerness is caused by *demonic possession*. Now I\’ve heard it all. And now he\’s ranting about psychology. Are we sure Ted isn\’t a Scientologist?

  4. Kevin says:

    Who knows what religion he is involved with!  I have no clue what \’poor boy\’ he referring to…(unless he is referring to Gibbon!).

  5. elizabeth says:

    Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire ????Dont tell me everyone thinks that all Romans were too busy "bonking" to look after their Empire What a laugh to even consider that was reason for the fall of the Empire Sorry Kevin  couldnt help myself with this silly comment .Keep on posting Kevin I do read and keep up when I can but takes me  awhile as  here I am still on dial up internet lol

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