Being a Disciple of Jesus?

I just read a post from someone who continually writes negative things about gays and lesbians.  I know he means well, but I just have to wonder why he goes on and on and how exactly he plans on becoming a true disciple.  Anyway, Mark writes:

No where will you hear them say Christ must be Lord of their lives. You will not hear the command to discipleship, leave your father and mother, forsake all and all things, take up your cross, deny yourself, be willing to die, put your hand to the plow and if you look back you’re not worthy to be My disciple! The last words the gay dreamers in the modern gospel speak are obedience, submission, and sacrifice.

So what does Jesus say about becoming his disciple?  Here is a quote from Luke 14:25ff:

14:25 Now large crowds were traveling with him; and he turned and said to them,14:26 "Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.14:27 Whoever does not carry the cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.14:28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not first sit down and estimate the cost, to see whether he has enough to complete it?14:29 Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it will begin to ridicule him,14:30 saying, ‘This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.’ 14:31 Or what king, going out to wage war against another king, will not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to oppose the one who comes against him with twenty thousand?14:32 If he cannot, then, while the other is still far away, he sends a delegation and asks for the terms of peace.14:33 So therefore, none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions.

O.k., let’s look at these verses.  To be a disciple, according to Christ, you have to hate your mother, father, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and even hate life itself.  So what Christian out there will do this?  What Christian will stand up in public and say that he/she hates everything and everyone, including life itself?  Another duty to become a disciple is to give up all possessions.  What Christian is going to do that?  All we have to do is see these mega-churches to see that these people wouldn’t dare give up their possessions, especially their expensive computers that they use to push their message.  And all we have to do is look at these people who throw scripture around as if they own it and see that they own an expensive computer.  (That is a possession, by the way.)  So in reality, the only person that fits the words of Jesus as his disciple is someone who hates the world and has nothing–no house, no clothes, no family, certainly no computers,–nothing.  It seems like a pretty hard thing to do, but I will await those who keep calling on everyone to become a real disciple to do these things.   Let’s see how closely they can follow the words of Jesus in terms of ‘obedience, submission and sacrifice’! Let’s hear them state that they hate their families and they hate life itself and let’s see them give up everything.  Maybe then they can start calling on others to do the same.  If they can’t then, this is one more example of picking and choosing scripture.


Mark also quotes a part of Matthew:

Finally in Matthew 19 verse 16 And someone came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?"
17 And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."

Humm, ‘keep the commandments’? Wonder why Jesus didn’t just say "believe in me"? Isn’t that what gay dreamers would say? What would you say?

Since Mark doesn’t quote what these commandments are, I will do it here:

19:16 Then someone came to him and said, "Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?"19:17 And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."19:18 He said to him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said, "You shall not murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness;19:19 Honor your father and mother; also, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."19:20 The young man said to him, "I have kept all these; what do I still lack?"19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me."19:22 When the young man heard this word, he went away grieving, for he had many possessions.19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven.19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."19:25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astounded and said, "Then who can be saved?"19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said, "For mortals it is impossible, but for God all things are possible."19:27 Then Peter said in reply, "Look, we have left everything and followed you. What then will we have?"19:28 Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man is seated on the throne of his glory, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields, for my name’s sake, will receive a hundredfold, and will inherit eternal life.

Notice the commandments that Jesus said people must follow to gain eternal life.  No murder; no adultery; no stealing; no bearing false witness; (I guess that will mean most politicians are automatically out!); honor your mother and father (how you can hate them and honor them at the same time is a mystery to me!); love your  neighbor as you love yourself; and finally, sell all possessions.  What seems to be missing here from these commandments?  Well, I don’t see anything about the abomination of homosexuality here in the commandments.  You can still keep these commandments and be gay, apparently.  Of course, no one is going to keep these stated commandments, especially the ‘sell your possessions’ and ‘leave your houses’ part.  When I see someone sell his possessions and leave his work and his children to follow Christ, then he can call himself a true Christian (apparently).  In my humble opinion, these anti-gay activists will never be able to do it.  Nor do they really want to do it.  It will never happen.  Sounds like hypocrisy to me…

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