Gay Marriage Update

Two good pieces of news today, from the San Francisco Chronicle.  Only 54% of Californians support changing the State Constitution to make marriage only available to men and women.  This is good news because in 2000 61.4% of Californians voted for Prop. 22, which banned gay marriage.  That drop is over 7% in 8 years.  It is possible that the anti-gay marriage proposed amendment will fail in November.  And what will happen then to these right wing fundamentalists and their ‘majority’ view?

Another piece of good news is that although the groups that support the now-dead Prop 22 and the horrible Alliance Defense Fund, which is a group of lawyers started by Jerry Falwell (which tells you all you need to know about this group) have requested a stay of the new law that struck down Prop. 22, it is unlikely that will happen:

"An expert on the California Supreme Court said the court almost never grants rehearings.

Additionally, "It could be considered improper for the court to hold its decision for what are essentially political reasons," said Stephen Barnett, professor emeritus at UC Berkeley’s Boalt Hall School of Law."

And apparently there are some county clerks who may not be happy following the law.  You know what I say to that?  Fire them.  Let them work for a church that discriminates.  If they can’t follow state law, they shouldn’t have a job with the state.  This is like pharmacists who don’t want to give out certain drugs or doctors who don’t want to treat certain patients.  You can’t have a clerk refusing to marry Christians because he is Jewish, or Buddhist, nor can you have a clerk refuse to marry gays and lesbians because he/she disagrees with it.

Finally, I read the other day that the Chief Justice of the Cal. State Supreme Court, a Republican nominee, who helped make Prop. 22 unconstitutional, did so because he remembers going through the south and seeing signs for segregation.  He knew that was wrong, just like he knew that treating gays and lesbians different from other groups is wrong.  I have never been so happy and supportive of Republicans before.  🙂

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7 Responses to Gay Marriage Update

  1. Cassie says:

    It would be nice if peoplecould remember that that this nation was FOUNDED on the idea of Separation of Church and State and that people in public office have an obligation to consider the needs of ALL their constituents…not just those whose lifestyles they happen to share and approve of.  Charlie Rose had an interview with author Gary Wills that is to the point and it can be viewed HERE: http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/05/22/2/a-conversation-with-author-garry-wills
     
    Cass

  2. Unknown says:

    "which is a group of lawyers started by Jerry Falwell"
     
    Check your facts.  Falwell had nothing to do with ADF\’s founding.
     
     

  3. Cassie says:

    Wow, your anonymous correspondant was right: according to http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=4457

    Alliance Defense Fund

    Founded by a group of high-profile Religious Right leaders such as D. James Kennedy and James Dobson, the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) sees itself as a counter to the ACLU. As a legal group, it assists and augments the efforts of other right-wing groups to “keep the door open for the spread of the Gospel.” The ADF has been active on issues including pushing “marriage protection,” exposing the “homosexual agenda” and fighting the supposed “war on Christmas.”
    So it was still founded by the homophobic bigoted Religious Right—just not old dead Jerry. Well, heck, I always SUSPECTED we couldn\’t blame him for EVERY evil in the world. 🙂

  4. Kevin says:

    Hey Mr. No Name. Technically you are correct, but I suggest you check your own facts.  There were clear ties between the two groups, but Liberty Counsel seems to have broken off all ties with the ADF because they were only interested in making money (not that surprising).
     
    "The Liberty Counsel is a donor-supported organization.  Its private contributions come from its membership and those who respond to direct-mail solicitations for contributions.  The average contribution from these private sources is approximately $17.  However, direct-mail contributions are not the Liberty Counsel\’s only, or even primary, source of financial support.  The Liberty Counsel enjoys an arrangement with Rev. Jerry Falwell that provides it with significant monetary resources.  Staver has also pursued a mixture of sources including foundation grants and contributions, donations from churches, and court-ordered compensation of fees incurred through litigation.  Foundation grants were largely channeled through the Alliance Defense Fund." 
    This comes from The Culture of Conservative Christian Litigation, pg. 64, written by H. J. Hacker. 
    The two conservative Christian lawyer groups have broken off financial ties (no big surprise–Christians are always fighting with each other over who is more holy and correct) but the ties were there.  So yes, technically you are correct.  However, there were monetary ties between the both of them. 
     

  5. Cassie says:

    Christian MONEY-LAUNDERING??? Do they use Holy Water for that do you think?

  6. Kevin says:

    Hey Cassandra,
    It is hard to tell what these people do and what they use!  But you are right, whether the ADF was started by Falwell or not, the ADF and his Liberty Counsel lawyers are all the same–they are trying to force people to live under their religious (or not-so-religious) beliefs!

  7. Scott says:

    Jerry Falwell, James Kennedy – both wastes of flesh who thankfully are also both dead.  Let\’s hope Pat Robertson quickly follows suit.

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