‘Spritual’ Warfare Leads to Real Violence Against Real People

The first blog I read every day is Joe Brummer’s.  Today was no exception and he has written an excellent expose on the violent tactics that DL Foster and his so-called Christian friends are advocating.  You should read Joe’s article before mine.  Let me give you a little of what that ex-gay for pay minister DL Foster has to say before I give my comments. He titles his article "Are you ready for persecution At the hands of gay activists?":

Are you ready? Are you prayed up? Have you determined and set your mind that no matter what law they pass you will stand with God’s eternal Word? Have you decided that you will not be silent no matter what the penalty? Have you educated your church on what is upon us? Are you ready?

Because its not coming, its here.

Are you ready to do what Daniel did when he was threatened by the Babylonian legal system? Are you prepared to do what John, Peter and the other disciples did when the religious magistrates beat them and ordered them not to speak of Jesus anymore? Are you ready?

The church is about to be ghettoized, just like the Jews of Warsaw under Hitler. The enemy’s intent is to herd us into our churches, padlock the doors and make it illegal for us to speak what thus said the Lord. Are you prepared to lose your job, be forced from your home, have your children taken from you for refusing to bow at the altar of homosexual acceptance? There is no middle ground. They won’t allow it. Either we choose now to stand up and be counted with the prophets who when faced with the devil’s schemes stood tall or we fade in an ignoble oblivion.

Make no mistake the American political homosexual movement is involved with this having exported their hatred of critics of their sinful abomination to countries where governments are seduced by their money. Are you ready to have your church monitored by undercover homosexual activists? Are you prepared to have homosexuals target your business to test your acceptance of their sin? What will you do when they file an expensive lawsuit against you?  In case you havent heard, the war is on.

This is not a fight to be won with carnal weapons. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds.  Get yours out and get it ready.


Now the first thing you have to remember here is that DL Foster is a so-called ex-gay man who makes his living pedaling the idea that gays can change.  He claims he has and therefore everyone can.  So it isn’t surprising that this man says what he does about gays and lesbians.  What he is really trying to do is deflect any comments about his own orientation away.  This is typical for people like this.

Anyway, I have to say after reading this I am furious.  He is advocating violence against gays and lesbians.  He and his other so-called Christian friends take it hook, line and sinker and I’ll show you some of those comments in just a bit.  But look at this language–"It’s here", "the enemy’s intent", "there is no middle ground", "the devil’s schemes" "their hatred of critics of their sinful abomination", "monitored by homosexual activists", "the war is on."  And then he states that the weapons won’t be carnal (I think here he means physical, but the idea of carnality is never far from DL Foster’s thoughts).  But God will pull down the stronghold. Then he says something bizarre–"get yours out and get it ready."  Get what out?  Get God out?  This makes no sense.  What his language implies is get out your weapons and get them ready.  That means violence.

People like DL Foster and all of his so-called Christian friends need to get down on their knees RIGHT NOW and beg forgiveness for all of the violence and death these words are going to cause.  I blogged about what happened to two guys just yesterday when their so-called neighbor attacked them and called the ‘dirty people’ and worse.  DL Foster and his friends are responsible for this.  They know it but are proud of it.  One less gay and lesbian is one less demon for them to battle.  They can sit back and pretend they are fighting a spiritual war, but the problem with that is that a ‘spiritual’ war is physical.  We are real people that are being hurt by comments like this.  If they think they are going to heaven to sit at the right hand of God because of what they are doing to gays and lesbians, they are in for a rude awakening.  Then again, the God they follow allows virgin daughters to be sacrificed all to protect the sanctity of God…

What really pisses me off about all this talk about persecution and violence is that I emailed DL Foster for the very first time about something and it was the opposite of violence.  He knows damn well that there isn’t going to be a persecution of Christians by gay activists.  He lies to his readers if he says that this will happen.  And God HATES liars and they are abominations to him. 

Anyway, here are some comments that were left at Gay Christian Ministry Watch and think about what they are saying and what they are advocating:

Here is some traveling sideshow minister called Marantha:

The muslims want the whitehouse and the Homosexuals want thier own legal rights and pseudo Militia Control… Between the two we have a recipe for “Nation shall rise against Nation” Thats “ethnos” and it means Nationality VS Nationality not country against country… that means race riots…
We have the Recipe for the end of the USA in November of 2008
Please understand the full ramifications of what we are looking at.
The country torn in pieces… Racists fighting on one side…. Christians under fire from both sides for thier stand on Morals, Then over it all… Muslim Control of our Government to make sure that the situation only gets worse.

By the way… if you forward this… please remember that the athiests are the ones who have asked… no Begged for this…
It is written…: Ps 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Just imagine that man coming into your town.  Guess what message he would whip up? Race problems.  And then he would quietly leave and enjoy the carnage that he so much wants.  No wonder he is a traveling minister…

Here is another one who speaks in spiritual terms, but the outcome is real violence:

Jeanine Jemmott-Branch, on June 12th, 2008 at 6:03 pm Said:

Weapons and warfare refers to a spiritual battle and not a flesh and blood battle that involves physical viloence. It is found in Ephesians 6:10-20


Here is a comment by a woman named Carlotta:

And Joe posted earlier not to use metaphors of war. If that’s the case, then we must remove the bible! Metaphors of war are used to describe our spiritual battle weapons throughout the bible: BREASTPLATE of righteousness, the SWORD of the spirit, the SHIELD of faith, putting on the WHOLE armor of God! (Eph 6:13-17)

Joe must begin to understand that it is the use of GOD’s weapons that enable us to win others to Christ. His weapons combined with our love for the individual is the start.

Whew! It’s sending shivers through my body watching the Bible’s prophetic revelations come true before our very eyes!


She calls them metaphors, but for her they are real weapons.  You would think that this all-powerful God could do what he/she/it needed to do without us.  And she has the audacity (or probably ignorance is a better word) to combine the word ‘love’ with ‘weapons.’

Christine, of "TalkWisdom" will be conducting a class in her house about Jesus.  Well, I have a feeling that Paul and God (and Paul’s words are God’s words, as we have heard over and over again from these people) are not going to be very happy with this since a woman cannot do that. Here is what Paul says in 1 Cor. 14:33ff:

14:33 for God is a God not of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,14:34 women should be silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as the law also says.14:35 If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.14:36 Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only ones it has reached?)14:37 Anyone who claims to be a prophet, or to have spiritual powers, must acknowledge that what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord.14:38 Anyone who does not recognize this is not to be recognized.

So with that said by God, here is what Christine goes on to say:

"What is so obvious about the combined evils of our day, including the radical homosexual agenda and the gay “christian” movement, is the fact that they BOTH resist the call for the Truth found in God’s Word, acknowledgment of, and repentance for sin, and THEN be cleansed in order to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior into their hearts. Such deceptions keep them in bondage thus keep them from experiencing Jesus’ goal for us sinners – that being –

To set the (us) captives free!"

She is so worried about the homosexuals, that she won’t listen to the rest of the Bible that tells her she is forbidden to be speaking as she is going to do in her home.  She can argue about this, but let her argue with God about it.  In the time of Paul there were no Christian churches–people met in private homes.  This is what she is doing and it is forbidden by God.  She needs to stop this–otherwise, God is not going to recognize her. 

DL Foster hasn’t read this section either, since he comments:

Christine, thank God. I spent some time just weeping before the Lord. I feel like Habakkuk after reading, writing and sending this out.

Yes, he needs to weep, but not for the reason he thinks.  Christine is condemned by God.  That should make him weep. 

And of course, Stacy Harp, who tied that poor little "Kevin the Possum" up in a bag and who allows her dogs to attack other animals and rewards them for it, has this to say:

Great post DL and like Christine I also just blogged about this same issue today and sent my column to Renew America for a greater audience. Keep up the great work my friend! Your life is a living testimony to the power of our holy Lord Jesus Christ.

I could go on and on.  But it won’t stop the real physical violence that will occur when this spiritual battlefield hits the streets that real gays and lesbians live on.  Maybe we should start carrying a big bible around with us so that when the violence comes my way, we can whip it out and they can waste their effort bashing the book that is responsible for the ‘spiritual’ bashing. 

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2 Responses to ‘Spritual’ Warfare Leads to Real Violence Against Real People

  1. Justin says:

    And these people truely wonder what the true downfall of Sodom was here you have it in a nut shell no offense intended Keven 🙂

  2. Rob says:

    Scanning DL\’s post was the first time I\’ve ever heard of the civil rights movement claiming that homosexuality was superior:"the gay political movement has racheted(sic) up the  external pressure to
    stop all voices which proclaim homosexuality as anything but good,
    moral and superior."He must have a different version of "Teh Agenda" than I do.

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