DL Foster, the Plagiarizer and Liar


DL Foster, the rabidly antigay ex-gay ‘pastor’ goes on and on today about this supposed economic benefit gay men have and their "disposable income."

According to economic data, The normative statistics for a homosexual in the USA include a Bachelor’s degree: For gay men, the median household income is $83,000/yr. (Gay singles $62,000; gay couples living together $130,000), almost 80% above the median U.S. household income of $46,326, per census data. For lesbians, the median household income is $80,000/yr. (Lesbian singles $52,000; Lesbian couples living together $96,000); 36% of lesbians reported household incomes in excess of $100,000/yr. Compare that to the median income of the non-college educated Black male of $30,539.

What is wrong with this picture?  Well, for starters, the ex-gay-for-pay ‘pastor’ is comparing apples to oranges.  He compares people who have bachelor degrees ("The normative statistics for a homosexual in the USA include a Bachelor’s degree" to those who do not )"Compare that to the median income of the non-college educated Black male of $30,539.").  Is there anyone else out there that can understand that if you are talking about income levels, you have to look at education.  You can’t honestly compare salaries of those who have a bachelor’s degree to those who do not if you are making the point about disposable income.  Why is DL Foster so afraid to look up the numbers for bachelor degrees for the Black male? 

This is also wrong because DL Foster has plagiarized these numbers from Crystal Dixon, the woman who was fired because it was clear she could not perform her job:

"Economic data is irrefutable: The normative statistics for a homosexual in the USA include a Bachelor’s degree: For gay men, the median household income is $83,000/yr. (Gay singles $62,000; gay couples living together $130,000), almost 80% above the median U.S. household income of $46,326, per census data. For lesbians, the median household income is $80,000/yr. (Lesbian singles $52,000; Lesbian couples living together $96,000); 36% of lesbians reported household incomes in excess of $100,000/yr. Compare that to the median income of the non-college educated Black male of $30,539."

If DL Foster were in my class, he would now be out for plagiarizing.  He article is about pimps, but in reality it should be about cheaters and liars.  He pretends that these are his own words, but they are not. 

And what else is wrong?  Crystal Dixon is lying too.  A poll that was recently used by Stacy Harp to show how few of there are of us (gays and lesbians) also showed that this is a big lie that gay men and lesbians have a higher income.  Of course Stacy was picking and choosing what part of the pool she wanted to talk about (more than likely she didn’t look at the poll at all).  This isn’t surprising since that is how she reads her precious Bible. 

Here is what I posted in May about this:

I noticed that some of the myths that the anti-gay groups use were not reported by the Focus on the Family article.  For example, in the same study, it is reported that gays and lesbians actually earn LESS money than their straight counterparts:


                           GLB    American Adult
less than $10,000 14.0    5.9
$10,000‐$24,999 19.1      15.8
$25,000‐$49,999 29.8       27.0
$50,000‐$74,999 17.5        20.2
$75,000 or more 19.6       31.1

So nearly 20% of gays, lesbians and bisexuals early $75,000 or more, while 31% American adults do.  That doesn’t sound like we make more money, now does it? 

Here is what the article states:  "In addition, lesbians, gays and bisexuals are far better educated than the general population.  A third of LGBs report having a college degree; only about one-quarter of American adults do.  Despite these higher levels of education, LGB household income is much lower than that of the typical American.  While half of U.S. households report an annual income of $50,000 or more, this is true of only 37% of LGB households."

So with all his talk about pimping, he should really be worried about what God thinks about lying.  Hint–He HATES it.  But that won’t stop DL Foster from writing against gays and lesbians.  Like Stacy Harp, DL Foster will pick and choose whatever fits his beliefs.

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6 Responses to DL Foster, the Plagiarizer and Liar

  1. Joe says:

    Kevin,You know that I support what you are saying.  I just feel uncomfortable about how it is being said.  We have the data, the numbers and the science to refute DL Foster\’s claim about wealth just as I did when Exodus member Randy Thomas made the claim.  It is untrue based in the numbers to say gays and lesbians have more cash because we don\’t.  I need and value us revealing the truth with compassion.  We don\’t need to call DL a liar or any other name because the numbers are on our side.   I would request that you change you appraoch to refect DL Foster being innaccurate and wrong, but not make evaluations or moral judements of him.    He may be a liar but it is not for us to say.   What is for us to say is the facts.  We don\’t need to call DL names to state the facts.I hope you understand where I am coming from and why I defend DL, but I refuse to sink to his level.Love and peace,-Joe

  2. Scott says:

    Joe, I have no issues with you – but you say that as if Joseph Goebbels deserves to have his ass kissed.

  3. Justin says:

    Joe, I agree the high road should be taken when ever it is possible.  However, when someone is deliberatly distorting the facts and figures to generate hatred toward any class of people it is not just our duty but , everyones duty to point out just what the person is doing then back it up with the true facts and figures.  GayLeftBorg is correct in the fact that no one stood up to Joseph Goebbels and the Third Reich when they started their propoganda campaign against the Jews and we all know what the out come of that was.
    I have been doing a lot of research lately and the comparisons between the Nazi propoganda machine and the people like DL Foster is just to similar to be coincedental.  People like DL Foster are simply recyceling and rewording the old Nazi propoganda for no other reason than to spread hate and fear regarding homosexuals.  Here below is the comparison of what the Nazis under Goebbels said and a similar speech where DL Foster gets his propoganda.  DL Fosster and Richard Knight are but just two of the modern day lying Nazi\’s:
     Jews have better jobs, more money"Fifty-two out of every 100 doctors were Jews. Of every 100 merchants, 60 were Jews. The average wealth of Germans was 810 marks; the average wealth of Jews 10,000 marks." – Nazi propaganda film, "The Eternal Jew"
    Gays have better jobs, more money"Homosexuals are among the most economically advantaged people in our country. Research by marketing firms shows that as a group homosexuals have higher than average per-capita annual incomes ($36,800 vs. $12,287), are more likely to hold college degrees (59.6 percent vs. 18 percent), have professional or managerial positions (49 percent vs. 15.9 percent…" – Robert Knight, Family Research Council, testifying before the US Senate Labor Committee, July 29, 1994.
    No one would have dared to imagine the concentration camps or the final solution but it happened.  Remember Joe those who forget the past are destined to repeat the past.  Calling DL Foster and is kind a Liar is not getting in the gutter with them, it is stating a fact backed up by truth.  It is not wrong to call them what they are in any sense of being.  Liar, Hatemonger and the list could go on.  I know you are not a believer and that should not matter but, these people are preaching a false G-d and religion that totaly paralells the Third Reich.  And my belief in my G-d does not prohibit calling them for what they are.

  4. Kevin says:

    Hey Joe!  I can see where you are coming from.  I\’ve always tried to be nice when it comes to people like DL Foster.  But in the past two weeks he has been writing some pretty hateful stuff.  It is hard for me to sit back and let him and his followers throw us into his version of hell without saying anything, especially when he himself would be thrown into this very same hell for doing what he did.  I take plagiarism very seriously.  When I see it I feel like I am being cheated and that someone is trying to be something they are not.  These \’economic data\’ that Foster rolls out were stolen from Crystal Dixon and who knows where she got them.  But they are wrong.  And he was wrong to put them in his post and act like these numbers are his own words.   When someone lies, they are a liar.  When someone hates gays and lesbians, they are homohaters (I don\’t like the word homophobia).  When people steal they are thieves, and so on.  So that is why I called DL Foster a liar.  And another reason I was so hard on DL Foster is that a couple of weeks ago something happened and I emailel Foster about this.  He thanked me, but then two days later accused gays and lesbians of persecuting Christians!  It was too much.  It was then that I realized that DL Foster is only out to get rid of us, mostly to cover up his own past.  If he can make enough noice and flash, then people may not focus on him.  Anyway, that is why I did what I did.  It may not help, but DL Foster is never going to help us.  As you can see from his latest set of writings, he is whipping up people into a frenzy by telling people that the end is near and we are demonic.  This has led to other blogs (you can see them in his comment section) to spread his hateful ideas.  People like you and me are going to get hurt because of it.  If just one of those people realizes that he is not an honest person, then I feel like I have done some good.

  5. Robert says:

    Hey Kevin,
    The way i see it, a spade is a spade. Either things are right or wrong, truth or lie. If Foster is lying he should be called out on it.

  6. Scott says:

    When it comes down to it, Mr. Foster is just a big baby, crying out for attention for himself and his dying "profession". 
    I don\’t particularly appreciate the "ex-gays" (and it\’s MOSTLY these guys) plagiarizing lines from \’The Eternal Jew\’, and simply replacing "Jew" with "homosexuals".  It\’s actually sad to say I\’ve never even seen rednecks go THAT damned far (and I lived around homosex-obsessed smalltown rednecks for 21 years!).  It\’s the "ex-gays" and their "formerly homosexual" "ex-gay therapists" with the most venom towards gay people – and the only thing this plagiarism is doing is furthering the fact that these guys are lunatics.
    It\’s annoying for us to hear and read, but ultimately, it will do themselves more damage, than it will gay people.  Most people already think they\’re batshit, and thankfully rightfully so. 

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