Nov. 15–The National Day of Protest

Please, please spread this around as much as you can.  There is going to be a protest at S.F. City Hall on Saturday at 10:30 am against Prop. 8.  Here is the website for the protest:


Here are some posters for it:

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7 Responses to Nov. 15–The National Day of Protest

  1. Cassie says:

    Well, all of this protest and so on would be great were it the GOVERNMENT that was being intransigent in this area. But it ISN\’T. It\’s the freakin\’ people of the State of California. The "average Joes". The Governor and the rest (including the Mayor of San Francisco) are on your SIDE. So staging a huge protest at City Hall seems rather pointless….you\’re "preaching to the choir" here. Yes, the passage of Prop 8 seems to have energized the gay community but the gay community isn\’t directing its energy very efficiently. Let me remind you (and everyone) about the points I made about Prop 8:
    I don\’t know if anyone else has noticed how our prejudices can make us stupid?It\’s true, though.Let me give you an example:If we were to survey voters around the country on the question of whether or not they favor a "same-sex marriage ban" an awful lot of them would say "Yes." (Although the numbers drop rather significantly if we take the word "marriage" out of the mix and substitute "partnership" or "union". So we\’re quibbling about terminology, really. Labels. A person can be "married" to their job or to their art but….well, that\’s a discussion for another time).Let\’s get back to our muttons, here: Both Florida and California (and, I think one OTHER state) have just passed such bans.But there\’s a huge difference between Florida and California (and I don\’t just mean geographically). Can any of you spot what the difference is?Okay, don\’t strain too much—I\’ll tell you—in California (unlike Florida) same-sex marriages were LEGAL until the voters passed Proposition 8.In other words—-they just voted to TAKE AWAY a right a group of people already HAD because the majority (a slim majority, last I looked, but still a majority) felt this group of people shouldn\’t HAVE that right.Say it with me now: "Holy Hitler\’s Germany, Batman!"The voters in California just legalized prejudice. They just established a legal precedent whereby if a sufficient number of the electorate feel that a certain group of people (it can be any group of people, gay, black, Jewish, Muslim, left-handed, ANYTHING) shouldn\’t have certain rights they can now vote to take them away.And most of the voters in California don\’t even realize what they have done.As I said: Our prejudices can make us stupid.Just some food for thought….
    That was my Monday Morning blog entry—you need to remind the California Superior Court just what kind of precedent for selective prejudice this law sets—if allowed to go on the books it puts everyone\’s (EVERYONE\’S) rights at risk. There is no provision in either the State Constitution of California NOR in the United States Constitution that permits the rights of citizens to be taken away (once granted) by the whims of the electorate.
    THAT is the mistake the Religious Right made in California. And THERE is where your power lies…let the people know what they have inadvertantly done and the support the bigots on the right used to pass this law will melt away like snow in July even before the court hears the case (and dismisses prop 8 on Constitutional Grounds),

  2. Kevin says:

    Hi Cass,
    But I like preaching to the choir–after all, I am a teacher!  🙂
    But seriously, this protest is important.  To me it isn\’t pointless just because the Gov. is on our side.  52% of voters are not on our side.  Joe Brummer wrote about peaceful protests today (  Here is a bit of what he posted, which was taken from SoulForce:

    Nonviolent direct action strategies such as marches, vigils, demonstrations, boycotts, public protests, and civil disobedience, seek to create what Dr. King called “healthy tension.” This constructive nonviolent tension forces those who perpetuate injustice, and society as a whole, to pause, reflect, and consider the ugliness of their prejudices and the indecency embodied in their discrimination. In his Letter from Birmingham Jail, Dr. King wrote: “Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored.” Public protests empower us and educate those who are still the victims of fear and division.
    It’s imperative that we remain nonviolent in our approach. Although it may provide short term emotional release, it’s ultimately counterproductive to scream expletives at those who have harmed us. We must refrain from damaging property or trying to destroy the character of others and instead approach those who promote discrimination in a spirit of nonviolence. As both Gandhi and King taught, we must avoid violence of the fist, tongue, and heart and remember that in truth we are challenging unjust systems, not people. In due course, we seek to be in community with those from whom we currently find ourselves divided.

  3. Cassie says:

    Agreed and I didn\’t say NOT to have the protests—I\’m just not sure how productive they will be—especially considering the other side is quite likely to turn out in force with the express object of confusing the issue even more than it already has been. They have already managed to convince the voters that unless they passed this Proposition their FAMILIES would be destroyed. You and I know that that was a flat out lie but the emotional effect of it got this unfair law passed when otherwise it wouldn\’t have been. As I said on my blog about November 15th what Proposition 8 REALLY did was mark the first step on the road that leads to Dachau.
    The people of California just passed a law that sets a precedent whereby the rights of ANY minority are now at the mercy of the voters. EVERYONE\’S rights can now be attacked and even removed if a majority decides that\’s what they want. Now, I doubt that most of the voters realized that or would have voted for it if they had—but that is what they have DONE.
    And I hope you\’ll use your protest to get THAT message out. There is really little difference between a law like this and, say, the Nuremburg Laws on Race and Citizenship of 1935 except in scope.
    The problem is that it only takes a small pebble to start a landslide and Proposition 8 is that pebble.
    Compare the websites of these "homo-hating" churches with those Nuremburg Laws
    or some of Hitler\’s statements about Jews or the statements of White Supremacists regarding blacks and inter-racial marriage
    You asked me how to get this across to the people of California? You need to SHOW them the similarities here.  Get in some experts, get time on Meet the Press or a public television forum and SHOW people. And when you are all at City Hall on the 15th make sure you have speakers who can talk about THIS aspect,
    It ISN\’T about Gay Rights alone, anymore. Not now. And the People need to know—that way they will be clamoring right along with YOU for the Court to reject it.

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