Sodomites=Homosexuals?

I always find it interesting when people tell half-truths, especially those who like to think of themselves as Christians who believe that lying is a sin (can you do a half-sin???).  Some anti-gay activists like to call gay people ‘sodomites.’  They are, of course, making reference to the Old Testament story about Sodom.  There isn’t any actual gay sex in that mythical story, but that doesn’t stop them from calling gay people sodomites.  Some even go so far as showing definitions of what a sodomite is.  However, why is it that they will only show the section of the definition that only refers to gay people? Is it because they can’t handle the idea that sodomy includes heterosexual behavior as well?  I guess they don’t want to refer to themselves (supposedly heterosexual) as sodomites as well.  Here is the full definition of sodomy and sodomites.

 

sodomy – 9 dictionary results

sod⋅om⋅y

   /ˈsɒdəmi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sod-uh-mee] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

1.
anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.

2.
copulation with a member of the same sex.

3.
bestiality (def. 4).


Origin:
1250–1300; ME sodomie < OF. See
Sodom, -y 3

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n.   Any of various forms of sexual intercourse held to be unnatural or abnormal, especially anal intercourse or bestiality.

 

Sod"om*y\, n. [From Sodom. a country mentioned in the Bible: cf. F. sodomite.] Carnal copulation in a manner against nature; buggery. –Gen. xix. 5.

 

noun

intercourse via the anus, committed by a man with a man or woman

 

Sexual intercourse that is not the union of the genital organs of a man and a woman. The term is most frequently applied to anal intercourse between two men or to sexual relations between people and animals.

sodomy

c.1297, from O.Fr. sodomie, from L.L. peccatum Sodomiticum "anal sex," lit. "sin of Sodom," from L. Sodoma, ult. from Heb. s’dom "Sodom," morally corrupt city in ancient Palestine, said to have been destroyed, with neighboring Gomorrah, by fire from heaven (Gen. xviii-xix). Sodomize coined 1868. In Du. slang, besodemieteren means "to deceive," and evidently is built from the traditional notion of "corruption" in Sodom.

 

Main Entry: sod·omy
Pronunciation: 'sä-d&-mE
Function: noun
Etymology: Anglo-French sodomie sexual intercourse between men, from Old French, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom, from the supposed homosexual practices of the men of the city in Genesis 19:1-11
: the crime of oral or anal sexual contact or penetration between persons or of sexual intercourse between a person and an animal; especially : the crime of forcing another person to perform oral or anal sex —sod·om·ize /'sä-d&-"mIz/ transitive verb

 

Main Entry: sod·omy
Pronunciation: 'säd-&-mE
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -om·ies
1 : copulationwith a member of the same sex or with an animal
2 : noncoital and especially anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex —sod·om·it·ic /"säd-&-'mit-ik/ or sod·om·it·i·cal /-i-k&l/ adjective

 

sodomy sod·om·y (sŏd’ə-mē)
n.

  1. Anal copulation of one male with another.
  2. Anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.
  3. Copulation with an animal.

 

 

Some things to notice–straight people do sodomy as well (not just gay people).  Sodomy also covers oral sex–gay or straight.  So next time someone calls you a sodomite, then ask that person why they choose to just use one definition…The answer will be (and they won’t give an answer) is that they just want to cause trouble.

Here is the full definition of Sodomite:

Sod⋅om⋅ite

   /ˈsɒdəˌmaɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sod-uh-mahyt] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

1.
an inhabitant of Sodom.

2.
(lowercase) a person who engages in sodomy.


Origin:
1250–1300; ME < MF < LL Sodomīta < Gk Sodomtēs. See
Sodom, -ite 1

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sod·om·ite   (sŏd’ə-mīt’)  Pronunciation Key
n.   One who engages in sodomy.

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Sodomite

Sod"om*ite\, n. 1. An inhabitant of Sodom.

2. One guilty of sodomy.

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sodomite

noun

someone who engages in anal copulation (especially a male who engages in anal copulation with another male)

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Main Entry: sod·om·ite
Pronunciation: -"mIt
Function: noun
: one who practices sodomy

Note a few things–1)  all inhabitants of the mythical city of Sodom were Sodomites–just inhabitants and nothing else.  That includes Lot and his stone wife and the rest of those that the Old Testament God decided not to kill.  2)  A sodomite is anyone who engages in sodomy–and I’ve just given you the definition of sodomy–gays and straights practice this (which includes oral sex as well).  So when a so-called Christian calls you a sodomite, just reject it.  It is an old-fashioned word that is used to demonize a certain group of people (gay people) but in fact it includes all people.  People use it against gay people like a weapon, but if that person would actually read the full definition of the word (and they won’t) they would stop referring to gay people as sodomites.  Or at least they will admit to themselves that they are sodomites as well.  I doubt that will stick in their heads though…

I suggest those who don’t like gay people for religious reasons to read the full Bible.  God is good to everyone.  Only God decides who will get into heaven and who won’t–not the anti-gay activists (and certainly not me).  Keep your religious beliefs–they are protected in this great country of ours and you can do what you want with them.  But my speech is protected too.  So when you call me a sodomite, I can call you a sodomite too.  🙂  However, I won’t call you a sodomite–it is a word that makes me giggle because it is so old-fashioned.   However, I might call you a liar for only giving half a definition.  And I probably won’t do that either.  I figure that liars know they are lying, so there is no point in pointing that out.

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15 Responses to Sodomites=Homosexuals?

  1. Robert says:

    In my opinion the term sodomite, is a word that has been incorrectly used against Gays, from a misunderstanding of the story of Sodom. Second not all gays practice Anal, and as you point out some Straight people do. I think this is just another case of this person being nasty, and forgetting what Christ-like behaviour really is.

  2. Kevin says:

    Hi Rob–I agree. The story of Sodom is about inhospitality, not homosexuality. It is also about a father who was willing to give his daughter up to be raped. Why is it that we never hear about that type of \’sodomy\’?

    • william says:

      no ! Their sin was not “inhospitality” as many would want us to believe. Their sin was “Very greavious in God’s eye. for he destroyed not just Sodom but four other cities the same day . that included all the women, men ,children, animals, and all plants. so nothing would ever grow there to this day. As an example to those who would live in that sinful lifestyle again. God commanded that the land is defiled because of them even today they “Sodomites”(homosexuals-gays) do defile the land in which they live in . today they have that grace to repent before Christ and change their wicked ways and be saved from the punishment to come while they live now, for if they die in their sins without repentence and change . they will suffer that which the Word of God has planned for them. Do not be deceived by satan and his ministers.

      • kkaatz1 says:

        Hi William–can you do me a favor and look up all the other references to Sodom in the Old Testament? All of this needs to be placed into context–how exactly did other Old Testament writers use the Sodom story? After that we can discuss what we think it means.

  3. Joe says:

    Research has shown that words only account for 7% of communication. The rest is in the context, meaning, attitude, body language, etc… Use of the word "sodomite" is fine if you are having a biblical discussion about the folks who lived in Sodom. After that, one would need to think about what the context and intention of the word. What message is trying to be conveyed by using the word? Is the word being used to connect, enrich life or show compassion? or is the word being used in some other and less productive way?

  4. Kevin says:

    Hi Joe–clearly to call someone a Sodomite (when they don\’t even live in Sodom) is used in your words, a less productive way. It is used to show a comparison between those who think they are better than others. It is used to prop up people with low self-esteem to make them feel like they are better. It is used by people to cause problems.

  5. Justin says:

    Just a little something I found to be interesting and goes with your post. sodimaticum"It was first used in late 13th century France and was derived from the liturgical Latin word sodimaticum (another word never used in the Bible), their word for anal sex"" medieval writers used the term \’sodomy\’ to cover a multitude of what were considered to be \’sins\’. ""The first recorded mentions of "sodomy" in English law date back to two medieval treatises called Fleta and Britton. They suggest how strictures on sex were connected to Christian Europe\’s other consuming anxieties.""The grab-bag of crimes was telling. It matched medieval law\’s treatment of "sodomy" elsewhere in Europe. The offense was not limited to sexual acts between men, but could include almost any sexual act seen as polluting. In some places it encompassed intercourse with Turks and "Saracens" as well as Jews."So, sodomy was not just some sexual happening between two people of the same sex. These people need to start reading their bible. Sodom and Gomorroh were destroyed not because of sex but their treatment of strangers in their midst and their treatment of widows and orphans. Even John Calvin the fire brand he was preached this same reason for their destruction. He did not believe it was because of homosexuality. He even went as far as to chastise Moses for not telling what the true sin of Sodom was.

  6. Bill says:

    Well, that\’s the English translation. But the real problem goes deeper than that."<a href="http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/index.php?s=bible_homosexuality_1">Sodomite&quot; references in the Bible</a> are usually mistranslations. Verses in the Bible that refer to sodomites reflect an English translation of the Hebrew word <i>qadesh</i>, as in 1 Kings 15:12,"And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made." (1 Kings 15:12)"And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove." (2 Kings 23:7)The Hebrew term <i>asherah</i> is translated as for the grove in the latter verse. Asherah is described, in <i>Strong\’s Exhaustive Concordance</i>, as "a Babylonian (Astarte)-Canaanite goddess (of fortune and happiness), the supposed consort of Baal, her images; a) the goddess, goddesses; b) her images; c) sacred trees or poles set up near an altar."These verses have to do with idolatry, not homosexuality. Even <i>Strong\’s Exhaustive Concordance</i> defines the term translated as "sodomite" as "male temple prostitute". The <i>qadeshim</i> were the holy ones, devotees of the goddess Asherah. In Job 5:1 and 15:5 the <i>qadosh</i> are referred to, meaning <i>sacred, holy, Holy One, saint, set apart</i>. One must remember that there are no vowels in the original Hebrew, that these are added based on context and tradition. The <i>qadosh</i> could easily be the equivalent, in terms of holiness, to the <i>qadesh</i>.The term sodomite was imposed upon this priestly, yet rival, class of men by translators with no compunction about correlating them to a completely unrelated event, the destruction of Sodom.

  7. Kevin says:

    Hi Justin,Thanks for all of that!And \’No name\’–thanks too! It has been a while since I have had to work with the Hebrew!

  8. Joe says:

    I just watched the film, the life and times of Harvey Milk and happen to think of this post and the one that started it. The original post asks the question, "what\’s wrong with using the word sodomite" and the answer came to me from something in the film Milk said. It is about civility. Calling people a name they don\’t like to be referred to in a debate regardless what the debate is about keeps the tone civil. It shows that both sides can disagree and still remain civil to one another. To use words like sodomite to refer to gay people and to claim that it is appropriate is also to say it is okay to abandon civility in the debate. Is that really where we want to go as humans?

  9. Kevin says:

    Hey Joe,The next movie on my list from Netflix is the Life and Times of Harvey Milk. I\’m looking forward to seeing it.

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